Live from Tailgate Brewery in Midtown. Mayor Cooper nixes a large pedestrian Bridge project to move funds to local neighborhoods. Bob Saget announces his new Nashville Show. Plus, our guest is one of those "rare birds" who gets to drive the opposite direction of traffic everyday. We’ll ask him what that’s like, plus today’s events, on Nashville Daily.
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00:00 Hello everybody. This is the Nashville daily podcast. I'm Stuart Deming and I'm Erin Pennington and we are live from tailgate brewery in mid town. Mayor Cooper nix is a large pedestrian bridge project to move funds to local neighborhoods. Bob Saget. No, seriously, Bob Saget announces his new Nashville show plus our guests is one of those rare birds who gets to drive the opposite direction of traffic every day. We'll ask him what that's like. Plus today's events on Nashville Daily.
00:36 Good morning. Good afternoon. Wherever you are listening from whenever you are listening. Welcome to the Nashville [inaudible] snow days. Yes. National daily podcast. Today's guest, I have to say to an accident, Kyle Hawes in France. Is that how you say it? [inaudible] Brought on very close. All accepted. Yes. Germany? No. Do you have descendants or yes. Relatives from Germany. Yeah. So Kyle is our guest today. He is a good friend of ours. We've known Kyle for, it's getting close to a year and the only way I can remember that is because when we met it was very cold
01:10 And early in the morning, like 5:00 AM. And just the typical way to meet other photographers here in the city of Nashville.
01:16 It is. So, so we met Kyle during war meets maybe 10 months or so ago. And it was, yes, very cold, very early in the morning and at a very high elevation and so made it even windier and even colder. But your photos though from that day were like this, like mu, like they're just great photos. Yes, they were fantastic photos. And so we're, we're happy for Kyle to be on the podcast joining us today as we go through and talk about everything Nashville, as well as how to create in the city and what it is like. But first I talked about Kyle gets to drive the opposite way of traffic tram. I'm one of the lucky wants. You are, but are you that lucky because it's still Nashville traffic. Yeah.
02:00 And you're still literally like going from Antioch to Franklin, which that's very true. There's some days I've done that drive and I literally hate that drive. Yeah. And do you still experience bad national traffic? Absolutely. You take old Hickory Boulevard across town. I made the rookie mistake of doing that for my first job that was out there, but soon learned that it was much easier to take the longer route to go the all the back roads down to Franklin and the cool Springs area then, you know, way better drop it on 65 and dealing with all that traffic on old Hickory. That as just a nightmare. It's as bad as probably going into downtown Nashville.
02:39 I have a, I've been stuck on old Hickory Boulevard before and it took me two hours cause there was a car accident to get from Antioch to Franklin. Yeah. You've been in Nashville for how long? Going on eight years this this month. Eight years in October. So you've probably noticed what a lot of people who have been here for about that long have noticed is the back roots eight years ago are no longer the back routes that you can take. Yeah, I would pay money to make that happen. Like one the back of the back of the back routes make the back roads, make the back roads. Yes, cause everybody knows the diversion paths and now [inaudible] money to get rid of ways, but I don't have the money that Google has said. Right. And even this speed
03:20 On that, the roads that I've been taking as quote unquote Backroads have expanded. They've expanded the lanes, have dealt with all that traffic or construction, how that's been happening on those back roads. Probably.
03:32 Thanks. So Weiss. Yeah. Way's the destroyer of back roads. Yes, exactly. So cow, you are not from Nashville. You are from very close to where Stewart is from upstate New York, opposite side of the state. [inaudible] In New York. Yeah. You're three hours away from me. Yeah. Syracuse. Right. I know. We run in New York, but close enough. Okay. In that general area is, is there any, I guess Waverly, I dunno where that name comes from, but it just reminds me of Waverley Hills, the tuberculosis hospital in Louisville. That's now a very haunted, a treacherous thing. So I think the town Waverley, there's a little segment in New York city called Waverley place. Okay. and yes, that was a television show on the Disney channel. Was it really? Yeah. [inaudible] Which is thing. But there was an area in New York city called Waverley place and I think it was named after a guy named Waverly.
04:25 But there's a Waverly Tennessee. There's a Waverly New York. There's actually a Waverley almost in every single state. Interesting. Yeah. So it's super interesting. So Kyle grew up about three hours away from me. I never met Kyle when I was younger. I honestly have only been in Buffalo a handful of times. I've gone to anchor bar. I've, I've, I've done, I've done all the things in Buffalo you're supposed to do. But like, I think I've gone the Buffalo maybe nine times. Okay. Yeah. It's like, Oh, everybody has their story about how they came to Nashville because nobody's from here. Let's be real. 5% of the population is though. How did you make your way down to Nashville? It was actually a lot to do with [inaudible].
05:02 My, my mom she got a job opportunity down here. She's a a doctor and she does like spinal medicine and everything. So she had a job opportunity. I was in a band up in Buffalo called the breathing tree at the time and we kind of had this relationship with Dave Elkins from may or at least the lead singer did. So we had this opportunity that we thought all of us were going to come down. Okay. My parents were gonna rent a, or my mom was gonna rent a bigger house so they could come in. They actually, there was a lot of stuff going on and it was just a kind of a weird time for them. So they actually backed out you know, last week before the move. So I was obviously bummed about that. There are some of my best friends up there. You guys been playing together. It would have to have been at least five years at that time. Well, you know, we're, we're all good now and everything, so but you know, it took the opportunity
05:58 To say, Hey, I, I have this, a chance to go to Nashville and kind of see what it's like there. And obviously being in the music for a better part of my life at that time, I just said, this is the spot for it. So I took that opportunity, came down here and loved it enough to just keep saying, yeah, you have some time. You didn't know Nate at the time. Did you know that's it? No, that's crazy. What, what part of New York is Nate from Rochester. Okay. Gotcha. It's about an hour and 20 minutes from Buffalo, I would say. Okay. And that is at Clayton corners. If anybody is on Instagram right now, chances are you were on Instagram or you're trying to go follow him. I hate the a, that how Instagram is like tethering me again. I didn't post for two weeks and then I posted it and it blew up.
06:46 And then I started doing my fall content Instagram. So it's like, Hey, hold the reins back. We're only going to give you 40 likes on that post. Yeah, it's, it's, it's just funny Instagrams now I've noticed it's become a platform where you only see the people that you interact with. Right. And so, you know, which Instagram thinks, Oh they interact with them. They want to see more posts from them, you know, which is not false. But we also followed other people for a reason. And just because we didn't interact with them doesn't mean we don't want to see their stuff. You know, cause there's a lot of feature accounts in Nashville. Right. [inaudible] you know what posts I don't see on my Instagram feed anymore? Who natural feature accounts. Yeah. It's just very interesting to see that. I don't see those as much as I do.
07:37 Other photographers or somebody that I interact with on a more, you know, weekly, monthly basis. I went that night, I'm laying on the ground is the other day. And I saw a post from a guy and I kept scrolling and I saw 14 of his posts in a row and nobody else. I'm like, what is happening with my Instagram? Oh my God. And it's like 14 posts in a row. You missed these 14 posts. And I'm like, no, I didn't. Cause I saw him on another page that we manage. I seen all his posts. I haven't seen them for my personal account Instagram, but I've seen them from another post and they're like, yeah, Instagram. Yeah, it's a little bit funky. And you know, they're, they're pushing that. I know Facebook did that a lot. Twitter does that. Yeah. Well here, what happened with Twitter?
08:20 Yesterday, no, they blocked all political paid advertising. Wow. Did they really? Yeah. Worldwide. You know, and it's just, it's funny that they did that because Mark Zuckerberg last week, he said, you know, we're not gonna block political ads, you know, coming from our, our, the U S political system, like they can put out whatever they want to. Yeah. And it's interesting to see that contrast of Zuckerberg saying, okay, well, you know, they're free to put out whatever advertisements they want as long as I make money. Right. Yeah. And then Twitter, just go ahead and block them. Interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah. It literally just happened yesterday. So let's talk about some events. You have the Opry at the Ryman. This is happening at the Ryman at 7:00 PM on Tuesday. That's tonight. Tuesday night. And the Opry is officially officially back at the Ryman auditorium.
09:16 Aaron and I had the opportunity last week to go the, the ghost tours or the haunted tours. I'm going to say overall it was a great experience. I'll give it like a 7.2 out of 10 that's about right. And the reason for that is I waited 21 minutes to get my drink. Ooh. Guess how many wait minutes I waited to get my drink. Can you wait 30 minutes and you didn't get a drink? Yes, exactly. Yeah. And so I think they could have had a better process like pre made all those drinks cause they only had two drinks on the menu. Really? Yeah. That was literally 10 drinks on the menu. And so like that experience was frustrating in itself. The tour was great. The the guy that we had the tour guide, rich, he was fantastic. He did a great job. But from a customer service standpoint, I was disappointed that Aaron didn't get his drink and I waited 21 minutes to get my tools ready to hear some ghost stories with a little bit of tipsy in there.
10:12 And I'll be honest about this. That drink was not that good, Aaron. So you didn't really miss much. You just waiting in line in wasted. I was hoping to get like a coffee or a hot chocolate or something. Like that's all I wanted. Yeah, I they you would have thought like, cause they, they had 25 people port per tour and Amanda and I sat in bed that after that tour and we did the cost analysis on how much they spent per tour guide and everything. And they made about $10,000 that night, so they made some good money for an hour long, maybe two hour long thing. So okay. That's enough about the time. And this one at T pack. Oh no, I kind of want to go to this one. This one is fun. You're on your own. Yeah, I may be the only one there, but it'll just be stored like in a budget.
10:58 Gives a store will be like, Ooh. Yeah. And it's the SpongeBob musical. Wow. I don't even know. This was a thing. I hadn't seen ads for this somewhere. Like I knew it was the thing that like an awkward like looking Patrick and stuff. Like I don't, I'm done. I'll wake up some pictures of it. Y'all can them y'all talking about it as frightening. Yeah. This is at 7:30 PM tonight at T pack. I used to watch SpongeBob growing up. Oh for sure. Definitely have not watched SpongeBob in a long time. I know they're becoming one of the longest shows besides Simpsons in South park Island for 20 years. I'm looking at some photos. There are no costumes like as far as, they're not dressed up like you would be for Disney on ice or something like that. They're all just people with outfits on, not like a full costume or something.
11:45 Interesting. Kind of matching the character's personality and the look of the character and everything. Oh that's really interesting. Yeah. So saves them a ton of money. If anyone is going to the SpongeBob musical, please tweet at us the X PLR. Dot. Nash, I would love to see your photos of this musical. Also happening the rest of this week. You have Nashville design week to learn more about that, it's Nashville design week.org on Sunday you have the Tennessee Titans verse, the Kansas city chiefs, chefs. Wow. [inaudible] chefs, chefs, chefs. That's a cooking competition. Some of those type players can probably cook some good barbecue. So they eat enough barbecue. They could probably cook some good barbecue or they pick somebody else that's happening at Nissan Sunday at 12:00 PM. And then this is the last weekend for this one. Aaron, talk about that. This is a talking about ghost tours.
12:37 The Hermitage goes to her. So we've taken two goes towards this year. I would highly recommend this one. This is going to be the last week. Yes. So go ahead and call first before you go out there to, to buy your tickets. So called the Andrew Jackson Hermitage tours are Wednesday through Saturdays and seven and 9:00 PM are there two tours per night? Kyle, have you been to the Hermitage? I have been and I want to say five years ago. Okay. They were doing the ghost tours, I think they've been, do you want them pro bio for a while? Yeah, the Ryman is only, that's a second year, so I believe I went on one of the ghost tours but it was so long that I can't really speak to it. But I remember having fun though. Did you ever go on one of the downtown walking ghost tours? No, I haven't. I haven't experienced that yet. They're really good. You listen to our episode last Halloween about the haunted Nashville ghost tours stuff.
13:34 Last week. Yeah. Last week on Thursday we came out with an episode I thought you said last year. Last Halloween. Halloween. Yeah. It tells you it's how I've been doing podcasts for a whole guest. That's how spooky is. It's there. It's been there before we start. I'm definitely haunted now. So this is found on the Tennesseean and the article name is, come on ads, get off my page. Okay. It says mayor John Cooper, nix is golf. So bro, pedestrian bridge Tennessee and does have a lot of ads. It is insane. I had to in the page, like on your Google Chrome tab, you could mute a page. You can and it will continually mute that page when you bring them up. I have it continually muted for the Tennessee and because of how many ads they have. So I'm getting advertisements right now for a red camera. Probably new ones.
14:19 That's probably because I clicked on an alpha red camera today. Yeah, I knew SUV. I'm getting an advertisement for a wheelbarrow company. Okay. I'm getting an advertisement for Squarespace hand in hand goes in here carrying my Camry. Huggies, what's happening? They'd probably hear us talking about that somewhere, but never talk to the huddle. Like, I don't know, there are some ads at ad agencies like just the case. They need adult Huggies because you just never, the hot chicken may get to you. So the long away did Gulch. So bro, pedestrian bridge, a project overseen by three national mayors will be no more. You know, as soon as I saw this, my first reaction is there has been zero talk of this since 2015. Yeah. This project has not really been talked about and it sounds like for good reason, it sounds like all the mayors knew it was going to be a labor intensive financial burden and nobody wanted to take the risk to say yes.
15:27 Metro said yes. They city of Nashville did say yes but, but CSX the train line kept saying no. So thank you CSX for having the Motzy because like this would have been $18 million for a project I don't think is needed. And so basically what they would have done is built a bridge on the backend of the Gulch. I think I was like pine streets. Yeah. [inaudible] so bro over those railroad tracks and it was a, it would have been pedestrian bridge, but the land that Metro acquired and so pro for that bridge actually sold recently and it's going to be a hotel and about two or three years. Yeah. And so first off, the city of Nashville made money on that, but they're also saving $18 million by not building this bridge. And the $18 million is actually going to needed infant structure here in the city of Nashville.
16:22 Yeah. So Cooper this was on Thursday, he announced his Nixon in the $18 million project using the money to maintain and repair existing bridges, culverts as well as fun other neighborhood infrastructure needs. And so this goes to parks repairing bridges. A couple of the neighborhoods, specific things that have probably been high on the priority list for Metro sidewalks. Yeah. So, and it's so thank you John Cooper for saving $18 million and putting that somewhere else that would the city needs. Yeah, there's a, I think it was the state Tennessee last year. They came out and said there's 95 or 96 bridges in Nashville that need desperate repairs. Wish we had 96 bridges across the river, I think too. And maybe one of those can be another pedestrian bridge. So what's happening with this Bob Saget information? So there, and this is something that I didn't learn until I read the Tennessee in article.
17:22 There's a game show called Nashville squares that is going to be hosted by Bob Saget. It's going to premiere in November, so I'm upset. I remember first tonight. Alright, last week. Yeah, last Friday. Really? Yeah. Oh my gosh. So it's a, it's CMTS, Nashville squares a country fried steak. Come on. I've seen it. Country fried steak on a classic Hollywood squares. I think this was a game show back in like the seventies or eighties. I remember seeing it. It was, it's every celebrity or whoever's on the game show is like in their own square, kind of like a tic TAC toe board or something like that for a while. Like back in the early two thousands. I may be thinking of another one, but yeah, so I'm reading some of these names I like. So you have Sarah Evans, you have Kyle Bush as he's that NASCAR driver and Devin Dawson.
18:16 I, I'm not sure who a lot of these people are. You have a tenure, Tucker, you have T Y Pennington. Are you related to T Y Pennington? Are you talking about type Headington from tiger extreme makeover home? He thought a beanie baby to Tino Tucker Pressley talker. Yeah, there's a lot of people. I have literally Thompson's square Hill bill Ingalls going to be part of it, which is really Kanye Moore, not Kanye West. You should've just stopped and said Kanye. That's pretty cool. I guess this is the technically the first game show record in the city of Nashville. Probably major game show. Yeah, major game show, but tweeted us. Do you guys watch country music television at all? Cause I literally don't know a soul that watches that channel. I don't think I do either. Yeah. The only thing that CMT, that people watch on there are music videos that are just played repeatedly.
19:13 Yeah. Music video, like I've seen it like a plate on planet fitness, planet fitness. But like, I don't know, a single individual that sits down and watch CMT. This is, this is pretty funny. They have a quote. They said surprised. So was Saget when he was offered the get Saget said to them, but don't they want more of a country person, don't they? What? Jeff Foxworthy billing vol. Who's, you know, going to be on the show his friends and they said, no, we really want you for your personality. Okay. Okay. I guess he did such a good job on full house and fuller house. The Netflix show that failed. They, he just needed the paycheck. His, have you seen? Well, you don't watch stand up. No, I do not. [inaudible] Some, some pretty good stand up. I do, but I haven't watched him.
20:00 The only stand up by watching Eddie Murphy. Yeah. From Oakland 90s. I'll get to get you to watch some more state and I know there's very little that you will want. Yeah. And there's very little, I'll laugh at the stuff funny every single day. We like to give explores Nashville tip of the day. So this kind of fits in where, where we ate locally recently. So Kyle, what is, if you had guests visiting Nashville, what would you show them? I have a whole day plan for them, Stuart. Okay. I'll, I'll give you guys some options too if you're visiting the city. So I would start off at dozens bakery. Where's that? Wedgewood. Houston. Okay. Or if you're in the East Nashville area, which a lot of people were, you know, if you're staying out side of the city, that's a really cool to stay.
20:48 East Nashville is a very good bakery over there. East great breakfast selections and it's appropriately named for a East Nashville. Yes, it is. Yeah. so very hipster name. Right. And then I'm going to say before you one of my next suggestions is go over to at Radnor Lake, which is a great park here in Nashville, but I'm going to say stop by a barista parlor for a coffee to go. Okay. It'll take a little bit because they actually brought it down East Nashville. Yeah. Tops out East Nashville is definitely their location as my favorite location. [inaudible] Ship store. Yeah. I think they pour a little bit more love into that. Yeah. But I mean the German town location, that Gulf location are great too. So either one that you want to stop by or you can go to the one in marathon village and a, I think prices are a little bit more expensive at marathon, but you can go buy a coffee there.
21:39 Yeah, the marathon is a great place, a checkout stick place. That's where our sponsor screen threats is. And we'll talk about that in a little bit. Yeah. so then after Radnor Lake, I'm going to suggest to head down to hatch show print downtown. It's located in the country music hall building. But that's one of the places that I've gone to. I did the tour that they offer there where you get to actually print your own self here. They gave me more history of Nashville than any other place that I've gone to since about a year. No, I don't like go out and seek those kind of things. But during that process talking about the printing process in downtown Nashville. Yeah, it was insane. I learned about more about Nashville on that tour than anything that I've done. So I'm a big fan and I've said this many times on the podcast, if you'd go take a tour, like I always go take like a want a tour or a ghost tour or something.
22:33 I don't take a general history tour because you will get some of the most interesting history of some cities by taking very specific types of tours. Exactly. You'll always get history with these tours. Like with the Ryman, we got a lot of history that you're not going to hear on general Ryman history too. Right. So I'm going to see you particularly asked those specific questions, right? Yeah, exactly. Perfect. And then after hatch show print, I'm going to say to checkout a lot of the breweries around Nashville few of the ones that are my favorite, a tailgate where we're recording right now, they have the location in music row, East Nashville, and then the West Nashville out Charlotte there. One of the things that impresses me the most about tailgate is they have a massive selection of beer that they brew here. And you would think that having such a big selection would be their be corporate, own their hindrance, but it's not.
23:27 Yeah. You would think that maybe some of them are iffy, you know, you know, you don't know if you want to try them. Cause typically places that brewer a lot of beer have a big selection. They have a few of their really good ones and then that'll kind of experiment with other things. Right. But every single beer that I've tried here has been great. Oh yeah. That's, that's been the case with a lot of the national breweries that have gone to, even if they have a large selection, they're all very solid choices and they're passionate about it. Right. So like, and all the employees are passionate about it. And then even though we're at tailgate, I got to mention a couple more that are my favorites around the town. Jackalope [inaudible] it's so good. They are Walker smart. Yeah. Yeah. They have a smaller selection there, but all their stuff is very unique.
24:12 So I like the types of beers that they have on tap and you can find them in a Gulch or they're newer Chestnut Hill location out audit [inaudible] Houston area. And then Southern grist is another favorite of mine. They do a lot of IPAs and sours, but they, they have a very strong selection. Where are they located again? Cause I always forget where Southern Christmas they have a location in East Nashville. I always go to you, right? Correct. or off of gallons. Right. Yasin pike. It's like hidden in one of the smaller neighborhoods. Okay. Vinyl tap is back there. Oh yeah. Really, exactly. Bar, they feature a lot of the craft brewers in Nashville and they have a record store in there. If you want a real East Nashville experience, there are two places. Vinyl tap is one that I would recommend. And then as well as, Oh my gosh, crying Wolf.
25:11 Yes. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. East Nashville location. Yeah, absolutely. So there off of Porter road. Okay. They also have another tap room at the nations. I want to say. Oh, that's cool. That makes sense. I think that is where they actually brew the beer. Okay, guys, that makes sense. I think they bothered over there. I'm not, I'm not sure. There's a distilleries over there. I've been to their East Nashville coach a couple of times now that, now that you reminded me it's by vinyl tap. They were actually filming, they weren't filming, but a food television show for food network was filming there at the time. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. One of the times that I went and I was in, I don't even think I made the cut, but a few of us, there were extras on the show. Just kinda eating in the background and everything.
25:58 That's always fun. Did you get free food? No. Paper room food. Yeah. And then still had a signed contract. That's the worst. Yeah. So every single day we like to highlight a different creator of the day. So Kyle, who would you like to highlight as your creator of the day? So I'm partial. I'm going to highlight my wife, Christa. I'm really proud of her. She's been always what's the word for it? So I've always been fascinated by like sideshow and circus performers. Yeah. So recently she started a page or a Instagram account called sideshow ballyhoo and that's a sideshow. Alright. One word, S. I. D E a S H O, w. B. A. L. L. Y. H. O. and she highlights vintage sideshow and circus performers. And what I love about it is you can see her passion through this account. She tells the, you know, unknown history and the stories of each circus performance.
27:01 So it's not like she's just, she writing it as a blog type thing or she gives a very detailed description of each of these performers. So she's telling a lot of the you know, the, like I said, the unknown history kind of any myths that there are about them. She tries to relay that. And so I'm on the, I'm on the page right now and I scroll down and keep scrolling and I just see this guy with this Epic beard. And last week I celebrated my six year beard. Aversary nice. But this guy makes me happier. This guy makes me have beard envy that's on this profile. So that is a real thing. Look it up in a dictionary phone. But yeah. You know, as a photographer, just seeing her passion through that page and her dedication to post every single day, I believe she posts twice a day.
27:53 Wow. But it's just, you know, I, I get lazy sometimes with my posting and everything and I really use Instagram as something of a creative outlet for me to stay dedicated to constantly creating. Yeah. And she, she's actually one of the major people in my life, obviously being my wife, but yeah. She, a few years ago said like, why aren't you taking photos? You've always been kind of passionate about that and you seem to have the talent for it. So she was one of the major reasons that got me to pick the camera up and really started putting my work out there. Yeah. Wow. Now slipped. That led to me getting the job that I have currently. That's fantastic, man. It's just, she's, she's been a huge inspiration to me, both what, what she's doing on her own and just sent her encouragement for me. So as a creator, is she taking the photos and everything for this account?
28:48 How is she, how is she kind of grabbing the content for this kind of, she, she's fun in a lot of the stuff. I don't know her exact process for finding this, but she, well actually she's got a lot of books on sideshow history. Oh wow. That's cool. She will read, you know, article pages and pages in the, in these books and find the information online and everything. But she, she makes sure she has the correct information before she posts this stuff. And she really wants such local looking photos, black and white. Yeah. She wants to make sure that she's doing those performers justice and, and not just, you know, cause they're artists and they just would never recognize that as an artist. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So she's she's doing a really great job with, how did, how did she get into to starting that?
29:37 She actually she, she wanted to be a performer in search SLA. Okay. And she was a, she was doing contortion and a lot of that stuff cause she's actually, I'm not sure if she's going to be happy with me saying this, but she has been getting into sword swallowing. Okay. What are your thoughts on that? It's fricking amazing cause I just seen her in action. So you're, you're supposed to start off with like one of those metal hangers that you find now basically opening up like your esophagus and then, okay. And just seeing her progress. She started this, you know, a month and a half ago I want to say. Okay. She was so nervous that she wasn't going to be able to get the whole thing. She's, as she sees her doctor about this. Like she, she, she has mentors and everything that she's connected with actually through a sideshow Valley.
30:27 But just seeing her dedication to it, she's practicing like five times a day. She'll bring the hanger with her to work and everything. But she's, within two weeks she was getting the entire thing down. So like a gag reflex. Yeah. Did she have to break that barrier? Yeah. Oh wow. She's such a strong human being. Wow. That's insane. You know, kind of talking about performance and everything before the podcast, you were telling me that you and your wife went to a place called house of hearts. Yeah. and she got to go up on stage. Yeah. So we went there last week for Halloween and they were actually doing, normally they have like a strict dress code and everything, but they were doing like a costumes and everything. So that was a really cool experience. But with the entree, how's the cards is on third Avenue?
31:16 It's below the Johnny Cash. Correct? Correct. And the way that you get in there, it's, it's so cool. Somebody like, you'd think he's a guy like doing Valley and stuff and I think that's his normal job. But he kind of asked you what you're looking for and as soon as you probably shouldn't reveal too many secrets, but yeah, as soon as you say house of cards, he's like, all right, come with me. It takes you to the lock door, then they take you like down a, there's another security guard there. They take you down this long hallway and then you go into the basement of the Johnny Cash museum. That's where it's located. No photography is allowed down there. I'm like, you can't even take out your phones. Right? You get in trouble. Well, kind of. I mean, I checked my phone, like to have my friends were coming to meet us there and they weren't like yelling at you for that.
32:02 But yeah, you don't want to take photos or, you know, make tell them you can just do what you're doing the Sistine chapel and just hide it. Exactly. yeah, but it was such a unique experience in Nashville, probably the best dining experience that I've had thus far in Nashville. The options, the entrees are little more on the pricey side, but for that experience that you're getting is absolutely worth it. And then with the purchase of an entree, you get a ticket to the magic shows that are going on. I want to say every couple hours. Okay. but the performer that we saw, I can't remember his name but he was on Penn and teller's fool us and he was one of the winners on there. Wow. And so the the magic trick that my wife got to go on stage for was that same exact trick that he performed on Penn and teller's fool us.
32:56 So shit, it was so cool to see her up there. And that's crazy. So was she, was she like an active part of the trick? She was, she had to go through the process that he had. The, the magician that was up there, I, I hate that I forgot his name, but he had two decks of cards. She had one, he had one, a rubber band was on it, and then he would perform like an act with the cards. Like he had a rubber band, like did something with the cards, hit the bell. She had to do the same exact thing and went like back and forth and back and forth. And at the end he ended up like switching cards after they shuffled the deck. And they at the end, the trick was that he both of the decks had the same exact card that he had pulled from them.
33:45 It was just incredible how he managed to do that. Cause you're, you're shuffling both of the decks and you've got somebody else's shuffling. The other one, it was, it was insane and I'm very mad at myself for forgetting the performer's name, but it's okay. Well we, I could try to send it to you. So yeah, we'll share it on our Instagram stories. I'll talk about it. Perfect. And yeah, very cool. So, you know, not only your wife is a creator, but you have another family member who also has, has been just a huge creator, a in a huge inspiration. Can you talk about that? Yeah. So it's, it's my brother UJ Hostin frauds who runs a website in tutorials for mainly cinema four D and animation. That's awesome. I design, it's E Y E D E S Y,N , so you can find them on Instagram and I designed.com but he, as well as my dad and my uncle are all graphic designers.
34:42 Motion artists. So but he's been, you know, actively kind of coaching me and helping me as a creator and just inspiring me with the work that he's putting out. He recently just joined up with school of motion.com. Yeah. He started this a class called cinema 40 base camp where if you know nothing about animation, nothing about cinema four D or three D animation, he walks you through the very basics and you know, all the way up to being able to put out work that you're proud of and you can get jobs with essentially. So he's doing some, some great things with that. That's amazing. It really takes somebody who knows what they're doing to be able to teach it on a mass level. So yeah. That's really cool. Yeah, and I'm just as somebody that is more focused, like I do a little bit of animation in my job, but nothing like what he does.
35:38 But even as somebody who is a different style of creator, just seeing the way that he teaches and the way he breaks things down, it's very easy to understand and apply to different formats or forms of creating. So. Oh wow. That's cool. That's awesome. All right. So what did you have the, a house of cards? Oh yeah. Yeah. I had the vegan surf and turf, so I'm actually a vegetarian. My wife's a vegan. I'm not trying to like flaunt that or be one of those people. That's okay. Cause I'll bet I'm about to talks about some Barbara will even it out. But it was so nice that in a place like that they have like fancy steak options and everything like that and I can't really talk much about that. But it was nice to see that they did have some vegetarian vegan options and that's awesome.
36:25 Really fancy or there in place like that. Are there places that have our kind of go tos for Nashville? For vegetarian or vegan? Yes. To the places that I will suggest our grays and also raise on main and Franklin, no graze. They're part of wild cow visit G R a Z. E correct. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. and they are overbuy ugly mugs, [inaudible] snacks. So that, that little area is a great area to hang out. Basically. You can make a day out of it. Cause they have shops there. They have [inaudible] up player Rami pepper, Jenny's ice cream. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. You're welcome. They have a lot of good places over there. Okay. And then another really good one that's sunflower cafe. Have you been there? No, I haven't. Okay. It's completely like vegan. Yeah, it's a found 'em in Berry Hill. Okay. So that's a really good one.
37:20 And then there's some flower bakery. It looks like our bakery, honestly, I don't know if they're affiliated. They may be maybe, but then there's also AVO when you're West end, which is all like that roll food. Have you been there in there? Yeah. Good. Yes. Very good. Any other places that you'd like to go to? One of the plates. So I work out in the coolest Springs area. So one of the places that I'd like to go to when I have a little bit extra cash. So usually when I get paid on Fridays I'll go out to an urban market and spelled H. E. R. B. A. N. Marco. Okay. So a little creative with them. They offer you know, huge organic selection. They are all about fresh food, organic food. They have a little grocery store in there. They always have a rotating tappa kombucha, have a little coffee shop in there. They got a pizza bar, a salad bar. They have their normal breakfast, dinner and lunch menu. So great to go there. We'll definitely go check it out. Oh my gosh. Oh, you guys will never guess where I ate at Kyle. You kick against babies. No, I did. I did that. I did that with an H. It didn't start with an H, you know, it is. Oh man, it's honey fire barbecue. Yeah. so
38:36 I had some smoked brisket, Mac and cheese corn pudding. Mix it up. [inaudible] Okay, nice. Catered. It was honey fire cater. There you go. So they just opened up that catering option to our episode with Shane. With honey fire barbecue. Yeah, absolutely. Oh so man, that's, I'm hungry right now. So that sounds really great. Aaron, where did you eat that recently? I ate at my kitchen. I haven't gotten out much. Now there's a new restaurant called your kitchen kitchen. You're going to save money for those times that you do go out. Yeah, exactly. Cause Nashville gets very expensive. Very fad. I, you know what I'm feeling? I'm feeling some rise right now with their extended hours. Oh, rise actually has some good vegetarian options. They do see me to check it out. I will do it with like, it's a lot. This episode of Nashville daily is brought to you by screened threads.
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40:10 I think you've got the sugar cookie. No, no, no. I got Christmas cozy Chris. Mosey Christmas. Yeah, that's what it is. Like it smells like you're sitting in a fire and you're wrapping a big quilt. I don't want to be sitting in a file sitting at a fire city had a fire wrapped in a big Quill and there's chestnuts like roasting in the fire. That's what it smells like. Have you guys ever been like, had like fresh chestnuts? You got to start singing the song. You missed your opportunity. It's not Christmas quite yet. Just wait until next week. Whereas plane though. Yeah, wait until next week. We're interviewing the CEO of glow holiday. Now he's going to be coming on the podcast. So we'll talk about Christmas music then. There we go. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of snow and upstate New York and all that stuff, I don't think we didn't get the full story of you transitioning down in Nashville.
40:55 We know that, you know, your mom came down here, we know that, you know, you wanted to make a new opportunity. But how was that transition from New York to Nashville? What did it feel like? Were you nervous? How was it when you first got into Nashville? It's definitely nervous because I came down here without the people that I thought I was going to come down with. You know, my mom was here obviously, but I didn't have any like friends that were here. So yeah, being into music, that was the way that I sought out making new friends ended up you know, joining a new band or creating
41:34 A new band at the time that was called a grassroot kids. It's since disbanded, but heavy metal. It was like, it was a very unique Americano like folk like folk punk rock kind of stuff. I don't know. It was, it was its own unique beast, but loved doing that. Do you have any songs on Spotify or Apple music from that band still? I don't know if they're still up there because obviously sounds we've been out of the band for about three years. I, I don't know if we still pay it or if anyone's still paying for it to be, if you look up grass or your kids, you'll still be able to see it, but you'll see that it's just a very eclectic mix of like that alternative folk kind of stuff. Okay. So my type of music then, then a member of that band and a guy who actually joined us to play bass like a week before the band broke up, we formed another band called damned rivers, which is, we're still doing that.
42:36 We just released a album that's also back in June. So like some great names. P or more of like a full link though. We did a full length out called the pugilist. It's about like a story about a boxer. So. Oh wow. That's awesome. All of the songs have relevance to that full story of this character. So are you playing, are you the lead? Like what's, what's the situation with you and your hands? Okay. Play drums. Yeah. That's awesome. So with Ian Malden who's our lead singer. Okay. Mark, summerL he's our lead guitarist. He also recorded the album, did all the mixing and everything. Like how many tracks are on the album? 12 tracks, including a little intro track. So it's a 45 minute album. Give or take about an incident. Entire story. About one box. Yes. And then we have our basis Ricky de Mayo who plays with a lot of other bands around town.
43:26 So, so you, your, your full time job is video. Correct. So the geography, a little bit of animation, some photography. So it's really a huge changing it up. Yeah. And then you've, you know, you've, so you've got this music side, you've got a lot of video side, a very similar background to, to myself. How is it being in Nashville creating, you know, do you think this could be possible in any other city? I think it's possible in other cities, but just with the amount of different businesses that are here and the amount of creators that have been coming in the film industry and everything, this is a very, very good place to be a creator. And especially when you can find a like groups like the explore meets that you guys have been doing, explore Nash just having those creative outlets, you don't see as much of that going on other places.
44:20 You do have that in different cities, very niche and very not talked about. Correct. Yeah. But here, if you're seeking out and you do a little Google search our or Instagram search, you'll be able to find that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just been fun to see on Instagram. You can even see just on Instagram, well not too much anymore cause they highly curated through all the frog us to be able to see a lot of what was going on in the Nashville community as far as collaborations and everything. But yeah yeah, Nashville is definitely a really, really cool, cool place for that. Is the creative community way different than Buffalo New York? I assume it is. There are still like photography groups and a lot of photography meetups and I try to follow that as, as closely as I can, being away from there.
45:16 But I, yeah, I don't, it's not as big or as readily available as a Nashville city Buffalo. What's the size of Buffalo? 500,000 all together something? Yeah. I haven't looked it up recently, but I would say one advantage that a, I want to say smaller city, but really when you look at like the downtown of Buffalo, New York and the downtown of Nashville, the size comparison isn't too different. Obviously Nashville is expanding, right? Yeah. Buffalo's actually way smaller than I thought. So 158,000 thank you for looking that up. Yes. I think 2017 I would say that that can be an advantage, especially as a musician. Yes. Cause it's much easier to get your friends out to shows to find like your a little fan base up there than it is in Nashville because there's just so much going on. Especially in the music industry here.
46:13 What is it like going around and do you guys play a lot locally? We did. We did for a while last year or this past year, but we've kind of slowed down with the holidays coming up and everything. But yeah, we've played at damn, I'm trying to think of a last place that we play. I imagine it's pretty competitive. Yes it is. It's hard. It's a lot harder to book shows here unless you know somebody. Okay. And the, the music industry, so, yeah. Yeah. What's your roles goal? Is the goal just to make music together as long as possible or are you guys, you know, hoping, you know, okay, maybe this is a tour, maybe this is something we can sign on with. I think for a while there, ah, it though, the goal was to put out as much content to be playing out as much as possible.
47:06 But yeah, with all of us having our own jobs on families, our lead guitarist has two kids now. We've, we've all got our families and work priorities and everything. So really for us, music is just a way for us to get together every week. We're best friends, we love doing it and it's just kind of a release for us at the end of the week. We practice every Sunday. So it's really just become, and it's not like a sad thing for us. We just love playing music. We love being able to do the music with each other and it's just a great experience for us. Yeah, it is. Music is is a way like even if you, if you had, you know, one person at your show versus a thousand like, you know, still exhibit able to get together with that core group of people and play is something that is very hard to find now.
47:55 It's normally not one person. It's normally like the high rate of five people. But then you said it's harder to get friends come out yourselves. Is that, do you think because of how busy Nashville is with traffic and everything? I think so. And then it's harder for us because we don't play out a lot. We don't play on like Broadway or not country musicians other than our basis you plays for other bands. It is a little bit harder to get organically like a fan base that aren't your friends and family. Yeah. And there's only so many times and like a given couple months that those consistent friends and family and that that's not to knock them. They've got other things going on. But it is a little bit harder to get them out to every show. And we noticed that with how many events are happening in this city, like [inaudible] city.
48:44 Yeah. It's event season. We put that on a tee shirt. What's one thing you miss from upstate New York? The cold and the snow. That's good. Having an, not to knock Nashville, but we don't having a winter. We don't, yeah, we don't have a winter. I don't really have a fall. Don't really have a fall. It's very limited fall. Right. Like I'm going to be, I won't change my lease for three days and then I'm gone. It is a very short fall here. Yeah, I totally agree. W what are some things that you will talk like positives and negatives about Nashville? What are saying things about Nashville that you like and what are things about Nashville that, you know, if you could wave a magic wand, you would, you would kind of fix well for the positives, the creative community and even the music industry being as competitive as it is here, you will still find those people that are willing to help you be supportive there.
49:38 Yeah. So that's great. That's a positive job opportunities here. That's a huge positive. Oh yeah. There's a now hiring sticker on every door. Yeah. the restaurant industry, the F the food industry, the craft breweries, the coffee shops here. Those are all positives cause I am, yes. I can't even think of a bad experience that I've had at like a brewery here or a coffee shop. You're right that it's the perfect city for that. The only huge negative that I can think of is obviously the traffic, which I feel like that's the standard at. Yes sir. You're going to get from a lot of people but, and the heat for me to, he is high. Yeah. Yeah. Especially compared to upstate New York, it's hot. Scott huger can not deal with like eighties are fine with me, but I can't deal with this like 980
50:28 Movie hounding like nineties Yemen or a hundred. Sometimes it's just come on it, it's like that. It's not a dry heat at all. It's the humidity and you're just, you just step outside and you're instantly sweating. It's like, Oh great. I needed to wear this to work. But now I'm like God put SANEs. Yeah, it's tear. It's terrible. So Kyle, where can people follow you on social media? How's he photo? Where could they also follow your band? So spell out Hoggy photo and then your band Pazi photos. H a S S. Z. P. H. O. T. O. And my band is damned rivers and that's D a M N E. D rivers, R. I. V. E. R. S. awesome. Before we go there, both on Instagram and websites, before we go, we always ask this of our guests, if Nashville could have one thing that they don't have right now, what would you bring to this city?
51:29 That's a harder one. There's so much here. Yeah. And there's not been a time in the eight years that I've been here now where there hasn't been like a crane that's off just building something. I don't know. I would say something that's impossible, but snow. I like that. And they can artificially make that's true. Like, and we do recover Nash sometime billion that went to the bridge and make faiths and just make fake snow for the winter. I like that. Seems efficient. Yeah. I miss the snow too, so I then we understand, but then I'm going to take that back because if you add snow into the ramble so much, if there is a snowflake on the ground, everyone shot. Yeah. Everyone painted it the same. It's even just cast up in Nashville. Yeah, it's got shut the city down. Oh yeah, I'm fine with that. Nobody on the roads. That's the most efficient plan. Well, Kyle, thank you so much for joining us on the Nashville daily podcast. Make sure to go follow us on Instagram at X PLR dot. Nash. Watch our YouTube videos ex BLR dot Nash tweets at us at X PLR, underscore Nash, and also make sure to rate five stars on this podcast. Subscribe and share with a friend. Have a great day.