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Nashville was Incorporated and the British Burned our Census! | 1800-1810 History | Episode 121

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2019 was a record setting year for the Country Music Hall of Fame, and we'll tell you how to get in there for free! We Go is a no go as routes as well as ridership shows a decline. And let's talk history! Specifically we'll bring you an overview about what went on in Nashville from 1800 to 1810! We’ll bring you all of this, plus today's events, on Nashville Daily.

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00:00          Hello everybody. This is the Nashville daily podcast. I'm Stuart Deming and I'm Erin Pennington. 2019 was a record setting year for the country music hall of fame. And we'll tell you how to get in there for free. We go is a no-go as routes, as well as ridership's show a decline. And let's talk history specifically. We'll bring you an overview about what went on in Nashville from 1800 to 1810. We'll bring you all of this plus give you today's events on Nashville daily. Back in the day, traffic used to be defined by horse and buggy and even bison here, the city of Nashville, maybe some of the maybe some of the traffickers will cut was caused because there were too many bison on the bison trail. They're just, they're just all hanging out eating grass and just walking their jolly way to the water. Have you ever had an encounter, Stuart, where you've had to move a horse or a cow out of the road? Numerous times, numerous times? What's the best method to get to get a cow

 

01:05          Out on the road? Yeah, we there was a lot of situations growing up. We had like either horses escape the fences or cows escaped. So if you guys haven't, if you guys didn't know, I used to work in some dairy farms and some ranches growing up and there'd be situations where we'll get a phone call and be like, Hey, your horse is in our yard and it's like three miles away. That happened a couple times with my friend Brad. He had like five horses. It sounds like it's probably easier rangeland up a horse than it is a cow. But do you remember a couple years ago, this is a big traffic problem that happened on Briley, a cattle truck flipped over. This was two and a half, three years. So no, I don't remember this. They had helicopter coverage of this thing. It was insane.

 

01:51          So a cattle truck was driving up on Briley Parkway a heading, I think almost right near Gaylord going too fast. A little bit too wet. Maybe it flipped over. I think about five cows died in that accident. It's like a McDonald's cartel or something. Maybe. I don't know. Or is the Chick-fil-A, it was a, it was a whole plan from Chick-fil-A. I don't know. But so it flipped over on Briley Parkway and about five cows died, maybe 10 but the rest of them we could escape the truck. And so, and Briley has barriers. Bradley's it's, it's big. And so all these canals started running up and down Briley Parkway and you guys could find this somewhere on news channel five or Tennessee and this like they had helicopter footage of this. We're going to have up six hours to wrangle all the cows and they actually had to bring in ranchers and so they brought in ranchers to wrangle these cows. And so there was guys on horseback, on Briley Parkway, wrangling cows and then they had to set up an entire loading dock for the cows. So they had to set up a Corel, like a little loading zone on the Riley Parkway, put the in the corral

 

03:00          And then the cows had to go get you loaded it on the truck. That's incorrect. I sat there and watch you watch. I watched it on like news channel five or something and we used an hour and a half. I'm like, this is probably one of the most entertaining moments of my life. And it was incredible seeing these ranchers on horses literally running on their horse on Broadway Parkway, trying to wrangle a cow. Here we go. A segment coming up soon. Embarrassing moments in Nashville. Oh, there's another one. I don't know if I should say it. Well, we'll save it. We'll say it's another situation of Briley Parkway in a truck that flipped over. It got messy. Okay. Yeah, we'll save that one for you guys. That's the teaser for our new segment traffic. Back in the olden days, the horse and buggy, and the reason we're talking about this is we're about to talk about 1800 to 18, 10 history later on this episode.

 

03:51          But I guarantee you it was not as bad as it is today with regular cars. No, no. Well, it's just a slow, now they get on high 24. You might as well be on a horse and buggy. You could probably go faster if you live in the Amish country, right? You probably could, you know, which one would you rather be Amish on the almond farm or going down 24 I think I would rather be on the Amish farm that's sitting on 24 sometimes. Oh yeah, absolutely. You can still listen to our podcast and those Amish villages, I guarantee. Yeah, they have resources somewhere. Somebody transcribes it, they put it into a book. She can't wait until that happens. So some events making traffic, even worse, you have street eats. This is not where you're eating on the street. It's not like the bison that used to eat on the streets.

 

04:35          This is where you're actually going and you're getting some food from food trucks. And this is happening downtown at Diedrich street from 11:00 AM to 2:00 PM speaking of food trucks, there's a, I think we've talked about this. This is a macaroni and cheese food truck. Yes. We talked, I can't remember the name of it, but we talked about it probably five or six weeks ago. Right? Yeah, it's, it's kinda new. So you've seen it. No, I've, I've just heard more about it recently. But it's a a, that would be really cool if it was that street eats. There's a website for that. If you want to go to street eats so you can follow the link in the show notes. It will let you know they changes every week right to the website. So it's either Nashville guru or Nashville downtown or best food trucks in America.

 

05:14          It depends on whatever link I find for that week for street heats at the Ryman at the a normal call time of seven 30. We have Brandi Carlile, she's playing at the Ryman tonight. I'm 7:30 PM and then just a Stone's throw away. The Nashville predators are playing the mighty ducks. This is at Bridgestone arena and this is at 7:00 PM. So you can go to Bridgestone or in a.com/events for that one. And then happening in Midtown, you have a whiskey jam starting at 8:00 PM. This is at winners bar, which is right next to losers. So in the same night you could be a winner or you can feel like a loser. It depends on what your preference is. But to get tickets for that, it's free. But I think you still need a VIP. Maybe RSVP a to whiskey jam.com. There you go. Yeah, they have a lot of space for that.

 

06:03          So [inaudible] 70 degrees are probably gonna who knows? They may do it outside. So also at the screamer horn symphony center, we have foreigner with the Nashville symphony that's happening@sevenpmsymphonynationalsymphony.org slash tickets for that. And then we are having at the Tennessee state museum, Stewart, what is this interesting event that's happening? I researched it and I literally just point blank on what it is, but it's a screening of no passport required and reception, I believe this is a documentary that's on PBS and it's about food history and like traveling around the United States having food. I think that's what it's coming to my mind as. But this is happening at the Tennessee state museum from five 30 tonight to 8:00 PM. Okay, gotcha. So this is in partnership with national public television. It is. Stuart. You're right, it, we, it says we present unique, a unique screen filming of in food tasting.

 

07:03          Are they actually going to have food at this one? It's, it's a risk. We've talked about this a lot with their lunch and learn film screening and food tasting is what it's required. It says no passport required. It's part of the PBS slash eater series hosted by the renown Marcus Samuelsson. That's kind of a cool partnership with PBS and eater. Yeah. So he takes viewers on an inspiring journey across the U S to explore and celebrate the wide ranging diversity of immigrant traditions and cuisine woven into American food and culture. Viewers will also get a taste of the national public television taste of home, a survey of various culinary creations of immigrants in Nashville. The screening. Cool. Yeah. The screening will include tastings of food featured in the taste of home documentary and will be followed up by a Q and a with a panel of culinary experts.

 

07:54          So that's pretty cool. That's really cool. It sounds like one of their first events about food that might have food with it. Yeah. So if you guys had gone into that, let us know at X PLR underscore Nash on Twitter and then happening at the Nashville children's theater. I think this is the first time we actually have mentioned this. Now there was one [inaudible] spider we talked about. Yeah, I don't know how I remember that one. But it's secret soldiers, civil war hair heroines in disguise. And this is in partnership with the battle of Franklin trusts, which we've had Brad and Sarah on the podcast and they're talking about the different outfits and the accounts of the 250 women who fought as union soldiers. Is it a fashion show? I guess it historical fashion show. Oh that's very interesting. So that's not something that you see in Paris fashion week.

 

08:44          Every time I snorkel a historical fashion fashion show, this is sponsored by a company that's relatively new here in the city of Nashville. Alliance and Bernstein. They have 600. We're actually going to be talking about them I think tomorrow in the business news cause they just made another announcement. They're bringing in more jobs in the initially expected cause it was initially 1050 something like that. Yeah. So that that event is sponsored by Alliance and Bernstein and so them and Amazon, they're really getting into the community and starting to sponsor some of these big events. Yeah. Oh absolutely. So some of the ongoing events that you have just a few days left to go and see. The first is Zulu rumination. That's the Chinese festival of lights at the Nashville zoo. This is five to 9:00 PM every night at the Nashville zoo. It's going through February 2nd I just got hit on Instagram with like 45 ads.

 

09:35          Instagram hit me, they reach out my phone and punched me in the face. 2020 yes, 2020 ads. But it's all for Zulu lumination and I'm like, finally you're listening to me, my iPhone and the government. Finally you're giving me these ads. We've been talking about it for two months. Yeah, don't worry. It'll get there sooner. All that technology and then a Hamilton playing at T pack is running through January 19th so only a few days left. If you haven't got tickets yet to either buy them for your left arm on StubHub or to enter the lottery on Hamilton's app for $10 tickets. If you happen to win that lottery, the left arm on the black market, maybe going for like 10,000. So maybe you may go buy like one ticket tickets. Yeah, just more like maybe one or two with no left arm. So you just give them your hand in exchange for it to, I don't know.

 

10:23          I don't think they're accepting that currency directly, but somebody on the black market is, Oh yeah. So some business news, we have the country music hall of fame. They have announced a record setting year for visitors. Not surprising coming from the, from the country music hall of fame. They're one of the most visited attractions in Nashville and Nashville itself has set a record number of visitors this past year for 2019. So it's not really a surprise, but it's, it's still great to hear that even not only national for their special events, but also their special attractions are getting some attention. Yeah. And I thought this number was actually going to be higher than what the actual record is because I know the Nashville zoo had, I think it was in 2019 are a million. They broke the million barrier. Right. which I don't know if that was the first year, but I thought and I knew the country music hall of fame has consistently been hitting a million for a while, but I thought it was up higher than this number, but nearly 1.3 million people are drawn to the museum detailing the history of the country music with the collections of songs and artifacts.

 

11:32          That's up about a hundred thousand from 2018 so 2018 1.2 million people visited the country music hall of fame, 2019 1.3 million. I actually thought that was going to be like 1.6 million. I didn't think I was going to be that low. Yeah, still good to see that they were going on the upward trends, some demographics for these numbers. The majority of visitors actually held

 

11:53          From Tennessee, which is very interesting. That's all mean. That's amazing. That means like you have a local audience. I think my prediction is a lot of it's field trips from schools, which will be the field trips, the concerts that they offer. Yeah. Followed by Texas, California, Florida and New York respectively. Approximately 12% of guests were international, primarily from Canada, which is correct based off Stuart and I's experience of, you know, walking through downtown and interacting with people. The UK, which has very high Australia. Yep. Makes sense. Germany, we haven't encountered too many people from Germany personally and France. We encountered a few people from France. The increase comes from record growth in national tourism industry. This is again, the article coming from the Tennesseean. And in 2018, just a reminder Nashville as a city had 15.2 million on the books for 2018, 20, 19 was even higher. Yeah. We don't have the numbers yet. Oh, that's right. Yeah. We had 20, 19, so I assume that coming out in the next week or two, and I assume it's going to be higher.

 

12:59          Yeah. And I, my assumption is 15.6, even 16 million. I think we, we took estimates way back in the day on the podcast, like episode like 10.

 

13:08          Yeah. I wish, well, I'll have to go back and, and see what, what I said to that, cause I can't remember now. I knew it was going to go up, but I knew I predicted that. Okay. So we go, we go, we go, we don't go. We all know where we go. Responds to issues following route changes. So basically what has happened and when we talked a lot about transportation recently but we go faced a, a budget shortfall and we go is the bus system for the public transit? They had to cut nine routes and change nearly 30 at the end of last year. So I think we talked about that last week, wasn't it? What they guy that went on the public transit for a while, for a year. We, so we did an a podcast just last week. You can go and check that out about transit. And we talk about a lot of the issues that are currently facing the, the bus system here in Nashville, but this is specifically we go responding, excuse me, to some issues following the route changes. So those route changes, nine routes had to be cut in nearly 30 had to be changed at the end of last year. But these issues are causing surprisingly overcrowding in some buses. And so there's reports of some buses that are just passing stops because the bus is full. They can't pick anybody else up.

 

14:27          Crazy. So I actually experienced this the other day, so I was driving down Murfreesboro pike to get to downtown and I saw three buses at a bus stop. Two of them were full and the other one was filling up. So I have no idea. I don't know if a bus broke down. I don't know what was happening, but I'm like, why is there three buses blocking a bus stop? So I've experienced it firsthand, not by taking transit, by being behind the buses.

 

14:52          Right. and this is interesting as well in conjunction with the, the overcrowding. We go also reports a 7% drop in ridership, which just shows how much how many routes they actually cut. If they had a drop in, they had a drop in ridership and the amount of buses that are left are being overcrowded. That shows that there's not as many routes that are really available.  

 

15:22          So they even cut their most important route. That free circuit that they had going throughout Nashville was amazing.

 

15:27          Right. And that's, that's what they said. Their, their ridership, their 7% drop is mostly due to that free circuit going away. And so my, my theory is that people were relying on Wego the normal buses in combination with that free one to get them to their destinations. And so with the route changes and that free service not being available, that means that you're really not going to have the access you need to get to where you need to go. And so, you know, you see that ridership dropped because of that.

 

15:56          Yeah. And I, I just, I find that really interesting. So I think as we said, I think we, it was probably two weeks ago John Cooper is having transit [inaudible] listening sessions. So if you guys want to voice your opinions, make sure to check out the schedule for that. I believe they're having seven more over the next couple months. And John Cooper's plan is to have a transit plan in place by September. I don't know if that means is ultimately it's still going to have to be voted by the city if there's money involved, a lot of money involved. But he, they are the, the city is listening to the residents and this is your opportunity to speak up. So make sure to check out those listening sessions on transit. We'll try getting that in our show notes as well.

 

16:38          All right, so a Stuart has a great place that he has eaten a locally today. I ate somewhere similar. It wasn't local, but I ate somewhere similar. Stuart, where did you eat locally today? And how was your,

 

16:50          So if you guys have noticed in the last couple episodes, we haven't been talking about where we ate locally. And the reason for that is because I've been cooking all of my own food and so technically I'm eating locally at my own like counter [inaudible] grocery and I'm cooking. So, but I had the opportunity to go to rise and we've talked about rise a couple of times here on the podcast. This is found on fifth Avenue between commerce street and church street. It's in the the basement, kind of our, the bottom floor of the five Oh five building and they serve amazing chicken biscuits, incredible donuts. And so I had the Mac and cheese biscuit. They have a Mac and cheese biscuit. Yeah. Oh shoot man, my life is changing on this podcast. All right, so what did you get? So I just, I'm like, I'm just going to get a regular biscuit. Nothing else, you know, cup of water. And so I got a cup of water, which is free, so that's nice. And then I got the honey chicken biscuit with the sweet potato biscuit. So the sweet potato, the biscuit was the sweet potato and then they had the chicken and just cover drenched in honey. It was really good. And I've missed rice so much.

 

17:57          And Bernie buddy who's an avid fan of rise rise actually kind of took away their donut menu but slowly they've added some

 

18:05          Back apparently. Yeah. So they they have a new donut. It's like this cookies and cream donut. And so like you have your done it as your base and then your top is like a cookies and cream. Like what you would see like an ice cream or cookie dough. And it looks incredible. I didn't try it cause I'm like I just need this chicken biscuit. I don't need anything else in my life right now. But the cool thing about rise is they have a lot of vegetarian options. Yeah. I would say they have probably six meals that are focused on vegetarian options at least. So it's definitely a restaurant that's unique. The price points are under $10 a person. Yup. And we featured this restaurant on our top five restaurant video in 2019 talking about our top restaurants video are 2021. We're doing a little bit differently than we did the last two videos that we've done in the past. We're only doing Chick-fil-A. Yeah, we're only getting getting, but we're a, it's going to be a community survey and we're going to throw in one of our favorites as just a tip. But we're going to do a community survey, which is going to be coming soon about your favorite restaurants in Nashville and everyone would make a video on your favorite restaurants in Nashville in 2020. Ooh, little twists coming in

 

19:16          For ya. I did not eat locally. It's technically locally owned though. It is locally owned and, but, but if anybody has likes Chick-fil-A, they know that there's a free order of nugs just basically going around like black market sales, free nuggets, your free nuggies. That's what I'm calling reading nugs nugs free the nugs. And so yeah, Chick-fil-A is running this free, the nugs campaign. And basically if you, if you don't know about this, I'll, I'll tell you about it. They have the rock, they have the Chick-fil-A app. And I don't use the Chick-fil-A app that often, way more than I would like to have me. And if you even have the AAA app, like I don't even have my payment information in there, but I was still able to get free chicken nuggets with using the Chick-fil-A app. Even without entering my payment information. You can just go in and scan the QR code that's on there.

 

20:14          And the nice thing is, even if you don't have your payment information, this is not sponsored by Chick-fil-A. If it was awesome you can also have your app and track your points. So every purchase you get points and then you can become like a red member for Chick-fil-A. And then like, even with your points, you can redeem free sandwiches. So every time you go and just pay for your credit card, you can get those points and redeem, redeem free meals, the QR

 

20:40          Code and everything. That's cool. Yeah, that's really nice. So you haven't used this little Chick-fil-A hack that's going around right now. It's not even hack Chick-fil-A is just giving you freedom,

 

20:49          Jeffrey nuggets. Or you can get a free kale salad. You could do either or. So free nugs or free cow. There's a reason we didn't, we only mentioned 40 nugs and so, yeah, so head to your local Chick-fil-A to get your free MEPS.

 

21:04          All right, so explores Nashville tip of the day, the Frist center, the Frist art museum, if you're not familiar with, it's on Broadway. It's in downtown in between Broadway into my brain. It's a pretty big property. The first museum actually has a flood 2010, Nashville flood historical gallery exhibit that's, that's in the museum right now. And it'll give you a lot of information. And as well as photographs and archives of how the F everything about the flood, how the flood started, the events of the day, the aftermath, the cleanup, et cetera. Probably talks about the grand old Opry a little bit, cause that has a part to play in the story. And so it's, we're coming up on the, I believe 10 year anniversary May 1st may, first of the flood. I still remember that day cause that was an hour North in bowling green and it rained for 24 hours in bowling green. And so I remember that day vividly. But we're coming up

 

22:05          [Inaudible] then I was somewhere, not nationally, not, not near Nashville,

 

22:10          But so that's a great exhibit since we're coming up on the 10 year, you know, might as well go and check out the the first art center and go to the the Nashville flood exhibit. Especially if you weren't here and so you didn't get to see the coverage of everything. And you want to see some of these pictures up close and personal. Maybe talk with some people who may be there observing it and who were in Nashville at the time. So that's happening at the Frist center. And that's explorers Nashville tip of the day.

 

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23:16          All right, so like we said earlier, we're going to talk about some Nashville history. We've got some pretty funny things for you in here also that we can't wait to share. But we're gonna talk about Nashville from 1800 to 18, 10 approximately. Now if you have not listened to the Nashville from I believe 1780 to 1790 as well as 1790 to 1800. You can go into our archives and

 

23:46          Look up these podcasts as well. We'll make sure to put them in the show notes for you. That way you can have easy access to these episodes, but you can go in there and listen to, you know, how Nashville got started in, you know, the development up until 1800 because, you know, not a lot happened in Nashville start, but a few significant things and a few funny things as, as especially with city planning. But you can go in and check those out and kind of get caught up to this 18 hundreds point. Episode 18 is who founded Nashville. Okay. And then episode, I literally just had it episode 34. It's been almost a hundred episodes since we talked about some national history. Wow. Episode 34, history of Nashville from 1790 to 1800. All right. So just if you just have you listed, if you've listened to both of these and you want to kind of just get a little [inaudible] of what happened for synopsis, that's the word, the say nay. All right. A little synopsis of what happened. Stuart, what are some of the big highlight points before 1800 to get everybody caught up? Yeah. So a little bit of history beforehand. This land was a hunting territory for the Cherokee and Chickasaw and native Americans. I lived down towards Mississippi. They will travel North to come up to Nashville up. There's a little beautiful thing called the Natchez trace Parkway. Wasn't called that back then. But they would travel up

 

25:19          This area and hunt. And this was a primary breeding grounds for bison, deer,

 

25:25          All types of animals. There was also a saber tooth tigers in this area. And we're going to get into the history of that way, way later on in this podcast. But they existed way, way, way, way before then. They existed way, way, way before this podcast. I read it and it was a concept. But so

 

25:42          You had this area and then you had a lot of territorial things that happened with a contract contract deal deals between native Americans and the United States government. And this was a North Carolina occupied territory around the 1770s. You have a guy named Timothy Demonbrun, which we needed to do an entire episode on this guy. He was a French fur trader from Quebec. He came to this area to trade with the native Americans and he lived in a cave down by the river. Can't wait to put that on a tee shirt. I've been designing it for awhile and I just can't figure it out, but it's coming. And so as I said, this was a North Carolina territory and basically you had these two explorers name John Donaldson and James Robinson. They came here from North Carolina. They served underneath a guy in the revolutionary war and the Francis Nash, Francis Nashville was actually killed by the British, it said in the battle of Germantown.

 

26:34          He died a couple of days after that. And then they came here with the intentions to expand this into a larger North Carolina territory. North Carolina didn't want to, to occupy this territory with militia or anything. So they basically just left this Freeman's land. And so they came here and they named the French lick. It's right there in the Cumberland river, Fort Nash borough. And this was 1779. And then in its 1780s or 17, eighties, 1790s, they changed it from Fort Nash borough to the city of Nashville. We weren't quite a city at that time yet because we were just called Nashville and talk about why when we became an incorporated city here in a second and then the way that the roads were planned, you actually have a city planner from New York city who came down here and he had this beautiful drawn map of what Nashville should look like, could, should be this, this square.

 

27:29          But they didn't realize how hilly the land in middle Tennessee is and how inconsistent it is. And so they actually followed the bison trails. And this is an episode 34. We were talk extensively about this, but they follow the bison trails to actually make our roads here in the city of Nashville. The state of Tennessee became the 16th state in 1796 and we actually paid for our statehood, which are, we're one of the only States to do that. So we paid for our statehood. You can listen all about that on episode 34 and now we're getting into the early 18 hundreds. So that's now, now you're a little bit caught up. We have Fort Nash borough the bison trails becoming our roads, and then we have statehood in 1796. All right, so we have statehood Nashville on officially doesn't have city hood within the state of Tennessee, is that correct?

 

28:25          That's correct. Okay. So I'm guessing that this decade is when that is made official? Yes, absolutely. And so in 1806, the state of Tennessee actually incorporates Nashville as a city. And so basically what that means is that the state made a charter to say that Nashville is a city. We are an incorporated city into the state of Tennessee. We are part of Tennessee. So there's a lot of townships throughout Nashville or in middle Tennessee, even Tennessee as a whole, they're unincorporated townships. So that means they are not recognized by the state as actually being a city or a town from this state. And if you're an unincorporated township, that means the people, the local residents voted for you to become a town. But once you're incorporated, you have the access to have elected officials that basically says, okay, you can have your mayor you can have other elected officials.

 

29:26          And in 1806 is when we became an incorporated city from the state of Tennessee. So let's take a look at the economy from 1800 to 1810. It's very hard to track. So you're starting to have some boat industries come in. The record of when the first steam Bo actually came into Nashville is around 18, 19 and they said that that Steamboat was from Pittsburgh. We'll talk about that once we get into the history from 18, 19 or 18, 10 to 1820. But basically you have a few things are happening here in the early 18 hundreds. You have a plantation. It's not quite a plantation started yet, but it was a place called Bellmead in 1807 the name is escaping me. I believe it's something Harding. But he founded, he bought Bellmead plantation or the land where Bellmead was occupy an 1807, he bought 250 acres.

 

30:21          And then he turned that that highway 100 he built like a black smithing area. He built a horse like holding area and he built like a horse training area on that 250 acres. And then that expanded into Bellmead plantation, which Bellmead plantation is historically known as the industrial standard for the thoroughbred horse racing industry in America. And we'll talk extensively about the Bellmead plantation with one of their historians. But you have this guy who develops Bellmead and he has a black Smith. And the cool thing is, is he shut down that highway and start charging a toll, which very interesting facts about the talls here in the state of Tennessee, I believe it was 1804, the state of Tennessee actually approved toll roads happening. So like Gallatin pike, Murphysboro pike, no one's built pike. These were going to be toll worlds. And the interesting thing, and this is actually found on research at Vanderbilt university did, they actually didn't start charging for these toll roads roads until 1840s.

 

31:21          And so this guy at Bellmead one of the Hardings, he was charging a toll road that he wasn't supposed to be charging and he was making money on it. And so there are these horse and buggies would actually break down. He would have the blacksmith come and fix anything that are the problems with the carts and with the horse shoes. And then they would go on their way into Nashville and then they'll start staying at Bellmead. So you have that happening. You have a guy named Andrew Jackson who was the seventh president of United States, and he actually bought the land of where the Hermitage is around 1798 and he moved here in Nashville or in Tennessee, I believe in 1788. And around 1802, he actually became a military commander for one of the units in middle Tennessee. And so you have Andrew Jackson, he's starting to gain fame in the early 18 hundreds.

 

32:16          And so Nashville is really starting to establish itself as the Southern city the estimated population. And this is found on a family search.org, which is a geological like website based on records for counties on like death records, marriage records.com for the government kind of. Yeah. so they're, they're estimated that the population in 1800 was around 9,965, which from 1790 is 188% increase. That's crazy. And in 18, 10, they estimate that the population of Nashville was a 15,608 person population. That's including everybody from slaves to Freeman to everybody living in the Metro area of Nashville.

 

33:09          Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, so we have a new mayor and then we have Nashville's incorporated as a town. Obviously there's a lot going on with the, some of the big families who are in Nashville as well as, you know, some big political figures and those kind of tie hand in hand. So who are the major players in Nashville around this time?

 

33:36          You have the you have the guy from travelers rest, I can't remember his name. But we're all doing an entire episode on the Traveler's rest. He was the judge. Then you have, tell us about the travelers rest. So I'm not well versed in travelers respite. It's in South Nashville. It's this beautiful home in South Nashville and I believe it opened in like 1798 and it was for a place for travelers coming from new Orleans or other Southern areas to rest. And that's why it's called travelers rest. And so they would stop there and then go into Nashville. I think it's about eight miles away, six miles away from downtown Nashville. So it's still a hole. Back in the day, if like from downtown rashes, you didn't have [inaudible]. No, you didn't have ICU for I 65 did not exist. And we heard about that on the battle of Nashville podcast.

 

34:29          Right. And that area was called rock city. And we're going to talk extensively about that when we get to that time period. But you don't have these major interstates horse and buggy. Like I still, I think it was horse and buggy can travel 15 miles at the most a day. So you, you still had, it was almost a day, possibly a day from travelers rest to Nashville and traveling. Right. Especially if you're not on horseback. Yeah. So especially if you're walking, so you, you would have the guy that judge you have Jackson who's starting to really gain fame. You have the Harding family with Bellmead. This is not related to the other Hardings. And then you have a couple other people that have plantations around middle Tennessee. They're, they're really starting to make the names for themselves. Maybe the McGavic family down in Franklin.

 

35:22          Are the families that come to mind right now, and I'm literally blanking on some of these names. When did the cheeks come into Nashville? Well, so the cheeks I don't think their family really moved here until like this 18, seventies, 1880s watch for day. Yeah. So we have a while for, until the cheek family comes into play. But they're the ones who developed Cheekwood botanical gardens. They were the founders of Maxwell house coffee. Theodore Roosevelt said it's good to the last drop, like that's from the president of United States. It's not bad to have it.

 

35:54          President of the United States can create your campaign

 

35:57          Slow. Yeah. Good. Until the last drop that they're still using a hundred years later, which is insane. So we'll definitely get into the cheek family. How about the Bellmead area? So Bellmead would have literally just been the small house at this time that, that hardened guy that I mentioned, he bought that land for 200 or he bought 250 acres and then he turned that into that blacksmith. So there, there wasn't a lot of housing right there. It was still a abandoned lot of forests and it would have had that toll road down highway 100. Oh wow. Yeah. I want to get back to you guys on the names, cause I'm blanking on some of those names right now. But if you guys look up a history from 1800 to 18, 10, there is almost nothing online about this timeframe

 

36:44          To be some good students and go to the library and and read some of these, read some of these books about a natural cause. It, you know, no significant events have happened. We're starting to see, you know, Nashville just kind of established as a city, right? We're starting to see, Nashville has some roads on the, they have some roads in the city, not well-placed as we know now they have some roads on the city. We're starting to see some major players in the economic field national starting to make it to trade in the, in the the Steamboat industry, right. This is before railroads start to come in heavily. So Nashville is still kind of dominate and because of the Cumberland river and we're starting to see Nashville kind of grow as a population and an economy.

 

37:28          Yeah. And on a family search.org if you guys are looking up for some names that were starting to really make a name for themselves in the early 18 hundreds, they've done the best research that I've seen where some of the names that they have. So like burn stump, Swanson, Tate Taylor, these are some of the names that were really starting to make an early population of Nashville. So that's in the shownotes family search.org. Oh, that's cool. And a really interesting thing happens. 1812, we have the war the war of 1812 and that's when the British tried to retake America. Bad mistake. And so I was trying to look at the history of the census. The 1800 census in the 18 cent 10 sensors census. Well, what happened? The British burned it. I don't know where they burned. They burnt it. So there was no records.

 

38:24          And this is from the so S dot. TN. Dot. Gov's the secretary of state, this is on their website. It says 18, the 17 9,000 1810 Tennessee became a state in 1796 we just talked about that, the territorial census schedules and the 1800 sensors were lost or destroyed. So I dug a little bit and there was another website, and this is census online.com and they just talk about all the details that are coming out of all the censuses throughout the United States. And it says the 1810 census schedules for Tennessee are no longer exists because they were burned by the British in the war of 1812. Wow. So we lost a huge, possibly a very important

 

39:08          A census, well for Nashville history because of the British, right. Because this national still young at this point. Yeah. We're only 20 years old. Right. And so, you know, national, I had just formed as an official town within the state of Tennessee in 1806. Yeah. And so we don't have any of the records of the ruins here. You know, from other documents we, I mean we know who was here, some of the big players, but we don't know exactly what was going on during that time. The census definitely probably lost a lot of information for Nashville at that time. Yeah. Family search.org. They've seem to do a, they're a nonprofit so they've,

 

39:45          I've done as much extensive history as they can. They have death records, they have marriage records. They have deed books but they don't have that us census of 1810 for the city of Nashville cause that was burned.

 

39:58          Wow. That's, that's a you, you never would have thought that, you know, Nashville would have a census right.

 

40:05          Burned. Yeah. From way back then. Yeah. So this is a, it's an interesting time frame and I've been hesitant to do this episode cause there's not much happening here in Nashville. Right. And we're going to ruin the dive in roll and take, this is a very overview of 1800 to 18, 10 and now in the future we want to take a very bird's eye view. We're going to zoom in, I'm using some photography type references. Everyone has zoom in. Everyone get into the macro micro history of 1800, 18, 10. And that's by going to Bellmead and meeting with their historian.

 

40:43          Yeah, we've got a, luckily Nashville has done a fantastic job of preserving the history in the in its city. We have obviously Bellmead plantation. We have the Chico gardens, we have the Andrew Jackson Hermitage,

 

40:57          We have the house at the zoo. We have the Carnton plantation or content down in Franklin. We have the, we have a lot, we have a lot of historical sites. And I think what makes Nashville such so unique like, yeah. In Philadelphia you have the independence hall, Liberty bell, Liberty bell, and in Boston you have the Boston tea party and the start of the revolutionary war. But Nashville has done such a good job of preserving our 18 hundreds history, especially like from 1840s to today. Nashville is such a significant player in the American history game that people don't recognize. Andrew Jackson, seventh Prince, Amy United States, Bellmead plantation. They're the ones who made thoroughbred horse racing in this country. Yeah. Jack Daniels, like the list just goes on and on and

 

41:51          Right. So continue to follow us with this history series. Lots more history to come, especially getting into the minute details of what makes Nashville great. And some of it's very fascinating historical aspects. The biggest takeaway from this from me is that the British burned our dang census records and that's the only thing I'll probably longterm remember from this time period that Nashville was established and the British burned our centers.

 

42:18          I read that and I was like, I raised my fist and I'm like, ah, they're British again. They strike, the British are burning, the British are burning our censuses.

 

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